On 2/28/2013 10:33 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com <mailto:whatsons...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        >> It is a basic law of logic that if X is not Y and X is not
        not Y then X is gibberish,


    > X = alcohol   Y = poison.
    becomes "alcohol is not poison and alcohol isn't not poison"


Exactly, and 2 negatives, like "isn't not" cancel each other out so you get "alcohol is not a poison and alcohol is a poison" which is gibberish just like I said.

Alcohol both is and isn't a poison, duh! It is the quantity that makes the difference. Are you too coarse to notice that there are distinctions in the real world that are not subject to the naive representation of Aristotelian syllogisms.

    > If there were no free will then nobody could choose to assert
    anything, abandon anything, or speak anything other than gibberish.


Cannot comment, don't know what ASCII symbols "free will" mean.

And we can safely assume that all text that is emitted from the email johnkcl...@gmail.com is only accidentally meaningful, aka gibberish as well, as it's referents where not chosen by a conscious act.


        >> And it's not ad hominem if it's true.


     > Why would it make a difference whether your personal
    accusations are true or not?


It would mean that I did not engage in name calling. What I actually said was that ASCII symbols with zero informational content ( like X is Y and X is not Y) is just blather, you're the one who equated blather with ad hominem; apparently you identify with blather and feel that a attack on blather is a attack on you personally.

  John K Clark

What about the case where some supposedly conscious being constantly calls itself names? Auto ad hominem? LOL! By your own logic we are force to consider you a self-inflicted zombie.

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Onward!

Stephen

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