On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 01:54:25PM -0800, meekerdb wrote:
> On 3/7/2013 1:50 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
> >>I see what you mean, but some could argue that when you use a random
> >>>device (like a coin) to make a decision, you abandon free will.
> >>>Indeed you let a coin decide for you, when free will meant more that
> >>>you are the one making the free decision.
> >>>
> >That hinges on the self-other distinction. A random coin toss is not
> >considered free will, as you are subsuming your will to an external
> >agent (the coin). But when you make a decision due to a random firing
> >of a neuron (random because the synaptic junctions are
> >thermodynamically noisy), then that is_you_  making the decision, it
> >is_your_  free will.
> >
> >
> Or you can take a more expansive view of yourself and note that it
> was YOU who decided to use the coin flip and to act on it.

Agreed. I was under the impression that Bruno was not doing so in this
case :).

> As Dennett says, you can avoid all responsibility if you only make yourself 
> small enough.

Indeed! My synapses made me do it, your honour.


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Visiting Professor of Mathematics      hpco...@hpcoders.com.au
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