On Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:06:39 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
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>  On 3/10/2013 4:57 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> On Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:51:35 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: 
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>>  On 3/10/2013 1:08 PM, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
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>> Question- I also thought determinism  mean't that you could predict where 
>> and when, a particle could move. But that Werner Heisenberg, said that you 
>> could determine, on, but never the other. Would you say that the universe 
>> is predictable and Heisenberg might be wrong?
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>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Mitch
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>> Determinism doesn't mean that you can predict everything.  Determinism 
>> means the future is completely determined by the past.  
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> Which means that a deterministic universe always begins with a miracle 
> that is never allowed to happen again.
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> IF it has a beginning.  
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Exactly, the deterministic universe could be also be the beginning-less 
miracle that is never allowed to happen again.

Craig  

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> Brent
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