On 13/03/2013, at 4:53 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We're talking about the basic principle of determinism though. We should use 
> a basic example of it. What special ingredient does complexity add which 
> changes the nature of determinism? One stone rolling or a trillion digital 
> stones rolling and colliding and sticking together and breaking apart - what 
> difference does it make to the ontology of determinism?

If you can't demonstrate that one carbon atom is intelligent or conscious does 
that mean that trillions of them together can't be either?

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