On 3/13/2013 3:51 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
  The computer as a whole is
>not a computer at all, it is an animal, a being. In reality, it only looks
>like a computer on the lower levels because it is too distant from our
>personal experience to relate to personally.

At last Craig admits that a computer can be conscious - but only by not really being a computer at some magic level where it becomes an animal.

It's not a matter of how it
>could possibly happen, it is a matter of how could anyone think that it
>isn't happening. You experience it yourself directly in every moment.

No you don't, or at least I don't. I experience many things but I don't experience being determined or not-determined.


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