On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:14:00 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:
> > Your view is that emotion must be local to the brain
> There is no other logical conclusion to make given the FACT that if your
> brain chemistry changes your emotions change, AND if your emotions change
> your brain chemistry changes.
So if I type comments on my computer and I see your answers on my computer,
then there is no other logical conclusion to make than that you live in my
> > There is no evidence to support the locality of emotional experience to
>> neurochemistry, only that access to such experience is modulated locally.
> Modulated locally? OK so the brain neurochemistry can "modulate" happiness
> into sadness and love into hate and fear into calm and consciousness into
> unconsciousness, and all Santa Clauses workshop provides is a blank generic
> carrier wave. It sounds to me like Santa Clauses workshop is not very
> important and is in fact a bit of a bore.
My computer shows your words and letters. It modulates your comments and
meanings. So all you provide is a blank generic carrier wave for my
computer to give form.
>> > so I am trying to ask what role would it possibly serve. How can we
>> justify its existence other than just saying "Evolution did it".
> Well that's enough because Evolution most certainly did do it,
Because Evolution is God?
> and given the fact that Evolution can only see behavior and not
> consciousness the only logical conclusion to make is that consciousness
> must be the byproduct of something that Evolution can see, and intelligence
> seems to be the best bet.
Except that intelligence could not benefit in any way by consciousness.
> >>> A data format is a schema of bits and bytes. It represents the
>>>> encoding protocols which are required to be implemented for decoding. IT
>>>> HAS ZERO TO DO with video or audio qualities.
>>> >> If that's true, if "IT HAS ZERO TO DO with video or audio qualities"
>>> then yes the computer couldn't tell if it was audio or video, but then
>>> neither could you.
>> > I can tell if it has video or audio qualities because I experience them
>> directly with human perception.
> Baloney. If "IT HAS ZERO TO DO with video or audio qualities" then neither
> you nor anybody or anything can tell if it is audio or video because it is
> neither. IT HAS ZERO AUDIO OR VIDEO QUALITIES!
The file has no audio or video qualities, but certainly hearing music has
audio qualities and seeing a video has video qualities. The point is that
the computer can neither see or hear, and all that a camera or microphone
does is convert video or audio phenomena into generic data for the blind,
deaf, senseless computer.
> John K Clark
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