On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> If you can't demonstrate that one carbon atom is intelligent or conscious
>> does that mean that trillions of them together can't be either?
> If your model of physics doesn't include intelligence then it can't
> interpret any behaviors as intelligent or conscious. Determinism is not even
> physics, it is an ideology based on the behaviors of objects. The problem
> with it is that rather than making the obvious discovery that no amount of
> pure objects equals a subject, it tries to insert some cloud of endless
> possibilities in between one object and many objects which obscures the
> obvious. If trillions of something make a subject, then you have to explain
> why that should be the case - what deterministic purpose does the subject
> serve, how does it come to be even a possibility if it serves no purpose,
> etc.

The theory is that lots of atoms put together in a specific way lead
to intelligence, just as lots of atoms put together in a specific way
lead to gas giant planets. The potential for the gas giant planet was
in the atoms and the potential for intelligence was also in the atoms.

Stathis Papaioannou

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