On Monday, March 18, 2013 7:57:06 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
> On 3/18/2013 1:02 PM, John Mikes wrote:
> don't put so much brain-grease into Free Will, please!
> I'm not. That's why I was careful to distinguish freedom and the feeling
> of freedom from will and the feeling of resolve. We can have them
> together, but that doesn't make them into one thing.
> It is the religious mambo-jumbo put into the mind of the poor-believers
> in ancient times to make them responsible for deeds the powerful disliked -
> and consequently: make them punishable.
> I don't think that's right. The idea of responsibility was taken for
> granted. It was only after the development of Newtonian mechanics that the
> idea that human actions might be deterministic was conceived. Then "free
> will" became the reactionary idea to preserve the traditional ideas of
"The early Greek atomists such as Democritus (c.460-370 BCE) and Leucippus
(c. 5th cent. BCE) were the first to see the universe as being purely
mechanicalistic. The one surviving quote from Leucippus's work asserts a
universal determinism: "Nothing happens at random, but everything from
rational principle and of necessity."-
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