On 25 Mar 2013, at 11:37, Alberto G. Corona wrote:

I think that you don´t mean religión but natural theology in the sense of a free search for ultimate meaning by logic and reasoning about the reality (in which the desperation about our ignorance and thus about what to do in life indeed becomes a fact of this reality. This last may be a major point that differences natural theology from mathematical theology)

I think that with comp, that natural theology is a mathematical theology (indeed described by the 8 hypostases, in arithmetic: something no honest machines can avoid when looking inward (in the common metamathematical sense of Gödel, Kleene, etc.)

The wise says that truth is in your head.
The Löbian universal machine says that truth is in the head of all universal machine.

To be short.



Religión is more a form of organization around an admitted theology.

In our scientific prehistoric time, you are right.

When we will remember that theology is a science, religion will be organizations around questioned theology, with the free doubts and the free experimentations.

Bruno






2013/3/24 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>

On 22 Mar 2013, at 13:06, Alberto G. Corona wrote:

These beliefs in robotic religión has some reasons behind or it is simply wishful thinking?

We can already listen to the ideally correct machines on this. They already grasp UDA and provides the solution in the shape of a theology, in the greek sense which include physics, and this makes their theology, as a whole, completely testable, and thanks to QM, it fits up to now. In a nutshell, the answer is that Plato is right, and Aristotle and physicalist are wrong.
See my URL for the details, or ask question.

Bruno





2013/3/22 Evgenii Rudnyi <use...@rudnyi.ru>
Quotes from Robert Geraci, Apocalyptic AI: Visions of Heaven in Robotics, Artificial Intelligence, and Virtual Reality

p. 133 "Ray Kurzweil believes that intelligent machines will be more spiritual than human being and believes that the future will include real and virtual houses of worship where intelligent machines will congregate (Kurzweil 1999, 153). Naturally, since all human mental phenomena are, from Kurzweil's point of view, computational processes, religious experiences must be as well. "

p. 133-134 "Some human being, however, might welcome robots into their religious communities and some robots might wish to join them. Fundamentally, if robots become conscious and, thereafter, acquire 'beliefs', a state that involves intentionality and meaning, then some of those beliefs will surely be religious. Both theologians and computer scientists have supported such a view, including Anne Foerst, David Levy, and Edmund Furse."

p. 134 "The artificial intelligence researcher David Levy has argued that robots will join in religious practices as a necessary by-product of their emotional range and conscious beliefs."

p. 134 "Without doubt, the interest that computer scientists have in the religious life of robots is fascinating but the fact that theologians have engaged robotics is considerably more so."

--
http://blog.rudnyi.ru/2013/03/religious-robots.html

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything- l...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en .
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.





--
Alberto.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything- l...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en .
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.



http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/




--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en .
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.





--
Alberto.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en .
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.



http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.


Reply via email to