On Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:06:10 AM UTC-4, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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> 2013/3/30 John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
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>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Quentin Anciaux 
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>>  > So if somebody else prevents me from doing what I want then I lack 
>>>> free will,
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>>> > No, you just lack the ability to exercise it.
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>> In other words you can't do what you want to do. So tell me again what 
>> the "free will" noise means. 
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> A lot of people have told you, but you don't want to listen and never 
> will, so yes it doesn't mean anything, you win... your place in the plonk 
> queue. Byebye.
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That's the thing about free will. If you use it to decide that you don't 
have it, then you become correct.

Craig
 

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>>> > if you would decide freely to pass through a mountain like it was 
>>> water you wouldn't be able to, on the contrary if you wanted freely to do 
>>> something but someone coerced you not to, the only thing preventing you 
>>> from doing it is the other person
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>> I don't see how it matters if its a person or a thing that interferes 
>> with me, either way my desires are thwarted. Coerced means a force was used 
>> to prevent me from doing what I want to do, and it doesn't matter if its 
>> another person or gravity I still can't do it. So tell me again what the 
>> "free will" noise means. 
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>>   John K Clark
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