On 17 Apr 2013, at 19:39, meekerdb wrote:

On 4/17/2013 8:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 17 Apr 2013, at 08:41, Russell Standish wrote:


Primarily where you assert that conscious states supervening on
recordings are an absurdity. There are some other places where
intuition has cropped up, but that seems to be the main one.

In the comp frame. It is absurd because there is no computation done by a recording. See my preceding posts, you have confused association and supervenience.

But a recording refers to a computation at a different time.

That's correct.



Is a computation, as done by a Turing machine, localized in time?

Only relatively to the universal machine/number running that machine. In that case you will not make a consciousness supervening on the recording, but to the immaterial computations referred to by the recording. That is, you go from physical supervenience to comp supervenience. That's the right move.

Bruno





Brent

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