On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:57 PM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: > Telmo: did you research WHERE would you migrate FREELY to find all those > goodies? > I did for awhile before I had a chance to DO it and got nowhere. The "global > rottenness" abounds.
Hi John, yes, I sadly agree with you. It's a bit claustrophobic. I was dreaming about a world with no borders, where like-minded people get to live according to their values and be left alone in their chunk of the planet. For example, I have nothing against the idea of a nation of puritanical christians, provided I am not forced to live there and they leave the other nations alone (I know, it's funny). What I know of the world is mostly restricted to Europe + UK and North America. I find the clichés to be somewhat true: in the USA you get more economical freedoms and a whole lot of puritanism, in the EU (which is less homogeneous) you get way less puritanism at the expense of economical freedoms. I've recently moved to Germany (Berlin) and so far I'm positively impressed. I mostly agree with the American constitution, and I would be happy to live in a country that followed it (modernising the language a bit wouldn't hurt, though). I'm sure your experiences are much richer and more interesting than mine, and I would love to hear more about them. Telmo. > John M > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > And what good does it do to H A V E nations? Starting wars? Looking >> > down >> > on every other nation? Exploiting strangers/foreigners? >> > Nationalism is a pest in the human world. >> > You are right saying that it is - sort of - a religious aberration, >> > closely >> > connected with religion itself. So the proposition may be true. >> > Could anyone LIST the benefits of 'national' existence/feeling? > > >> > (Forget about the secondaries: mother tongue, folk-music, lit, etc.) >> > JM >> >> Well said John! >> Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there >> wasn't anything better to scaffold civilisation. They are becoming >> especially ridiculous in the Internet age. >> >> I would tolerate them better if you could migrate freely and chose the >> one you like the most (in terms of laws, for example). Then they would >> have to compete for citizens, and politicians would have a harder time >> getting away with the sort of shenanigans they do nowadays -- >> criminalisation of victimless behaviours, legislation on the private >> sphere, unreasonable wars, humiliation in name of safety and so on. >> The concept of "others" is very important to enslave the masses. >> >> Telmo. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.