Therefore we might argue that only programs that halt can contribute to our "polls". This unfortunately does not allow for a true 3p.

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Stephen Paul King < kingstephenp...@gmail.com> wrote: > OK, so that would require that all programs would > be simultaneously 'available' for inspection for a measure to be defined > over them, no? "When" can that occur? Never! A non-halting program can not > be polled for a solution. > > > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:32 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> Right. It's not computing all possible functions, it's executing all >> possible programs - most of which don't terminate and so don't compute a >> function at all. >> >> Brent >> >> >> On 5/13/2013 3:30 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: >> >> So all possible functions are computed equally? ISTM that some functions >> would take an eternity to compute and that the number of such vastly >> outnumber the recursively enumerable ones. >> >> >> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:24 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >>> On 5/13/2013 2:49 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: >>> >>>> Does the UD compute *all* functions or only those that are recursively >>>> enumerable? >>>> >>> >>> It computes all of them. >>> >>> Brent >>> >>> >>> AFAIK, the latter, as a set, has a measure zero as a subset of the >>>> former. This is one reason why I worry about the viability of UDA (and >>>> AUDA), it postulates a severely restricted subset of the possible functions >>>> as ontologically primitive without a good argument as to why. >>>> Just because we finite mortals can only counts in terms of natural >>>> numbers is not an argument that All-that-Exists is limited to that >>>> standard. Man is NOT the measure of all things! >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/K7E-Vfwj4QU/unsubscribe?hl=en >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.3336 / Virus Database: 3162/6320 - Release Date: 05/13/13 >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/K7E-Vfwj4QU/unsubscribe?hl=en >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.