On 16.05.2013 08:22 meekerdb said the following:
On 5/15/2013 11:00 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 15.05.2013 21:02 meekerdb said the following:
On 5/15/2013 12:02 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 14.05.2013 21:45 meekerdb said the following:
On 5/14/2013 12:29 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 14 May 2013, at 19:12, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 14.05.2013 16:51 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 14 May 2013, at 15:33, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
If you are monist, that distinction is quite
artificial, because humans have no special status.
They have the special status of being humans.
If you are dualist and anthropomorphic, then you can
absolutize the distinction (but this seems ad hoc to
I don't see what is has to do with dualism. If you can
distinguish "humans" from "not-humans" then you can
distinguish "made by humans" from "not made by humans". It's
as scientific as any concept: table, chair, tiger, star,
What is a scientific difference between "humans" and
"not-humans"? How would you define it?
What difference does it make? Why do you have this obsession
with definition of words? Are you going to try to prove a theorem
My question was not about strict definitions. My goal was better to
understand the difference physical vs. mental. I believe that most
people on this list state that
1) mental is physical
I haven't seen anyone state that. I'm not even sure what it means.
Does it mean a thought is something that kicks back if you kick it?
A quick search in the archives find a message
that in my view implies "mental is physical":
"I disagree since there are experiments (e.g. healing prayer, NDE tests)
that could have provided evidence for these extra-physical phenomena.
By their null result they provide evidence against them."
I might be wrong and it might be interesting to look the archives
through more carefully. Well, this was my impression that "mental is
physical" was expressed quite often here.
What is the meaning of "mental is physical", I do not know. This would
be exactly the goal to understand such a statement better. The comparison
1) mental vs. physical
2) natural. vs. artificial
could probably help.
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