Hi Since there has been some question from materialists about my use of the phrase "beyond spacetime", I thought I would show that this is a perfectly legitimate concept now being investigated by the likes of Roger Penrose and Lee Smolin.
Here is a 2011 article discussing phase space, which is another name for one form of "beyond spacetime": Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html#.Ub7EqJy0S-U As I gather, the issue has arisen from: 1) Explorations beyond the spacetime world of Einstein, and 2) The fact if bodies collide inelastically, one has to consider the conservation not just of energy or of momentum, but I believe of their sum. In looking into this, I see that energy, being a scalar, is beyond spacetime, while momentum, a vector, is not. Since I have been referring to mind as being beyond spacetime, perhaps there is a connection between mind and energy. - Roger Clough Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 6/17/2013 See my Leibniz site at http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

