On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41:28 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
> > wrote:
>> On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>> Would this kind of universality of human sense-making be likely if the
>> connections between words, shapes, and feelings were purely computational?
>> Why not? Being a broken line vs a differentiable line is a computable
>> property. The difference between "k" sounds and "b" sounds is computable.
>> So I'm not sure what you're getting at. Or are you asking how "k" came to
>> be associated with "broken line" or how the written letter "k" was
>> associated with the phonetic sound of "k"?
> Right. Almost too easy, which makes me suspicious Craig has some weird
> counter play ;-)
> Indeed, why not? Rise and fall in values of acoustics + phonetics, shrill
> i of kiki vs. roundness of bouba, are mapped to jagged form vs rounder
You could just as easily map the acoustics so that kiki appears round and
bouba appears jagged. There is nothing implicitly visual about a sound
unless an interpreter makes that connection. If there were, then watching
an oscilloscope of a song playing would be the same as hearing it. Since we
can make sense of both audio and visual sensations, we can read the
commonality between them, but a machine won't make that connection on its
> Spikes vs. curves in values of graphic pattern mirrored by disjunct vs.
> conjunct in sound, which you could make visible by frequency response
> graph. Spikes vs. curves, odd to even, states of randomness to organization
> etc. Full buffet, eat all you can, choice is yours. PGC
All of those 'vs' and 'to' comparisons or contingent on a sensible
interpreter. They imply no intrinsic quantitative equivalence to each other
without one. What color is even? What flavor is randomness?
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