>> I agree with most of what you wrote above, but that last is nonsense.
There is no way the government could have engineered the 9/11 attacks
without it being leaked even before it happened. Remember Occam, you need to
take the simplest explanation.


Brent I agree that logically it would seem so, but recent history has shown
that, in fact, very large scale conspiracies CAN be kept hidden & operate in
the occult worlds, over long duration periods spanning many decades, with
any leaks and discoveries – and they did happen from time to time -- being
successfully managed (by simply ignoring them, sowing a plethora of
misinformation, misdirection, and alternate false “theories”, and of course
by the time honored practice of bald faced lying)


I suggest you read up on the now more widely known history of "Operation
Gladio". It is a morbidly fascinating subject matter. Gladio (and its sister
paramilitaries) was a secret stay behind clandestine CIA/NATA founded and
run multi-national paramilitary organization that was successfully hidden
away from public knowledge for many decades and would in all likelihood
still be a hidden part of history -- unknown to all, but the inner circles
of conspirators -- where it not for the testimony provided by the Italian
prime minister and perennial post war political figure in Italy -- Giulio
Andreotti -- during his trial in the Italian Parliament in the 1990. 


According to former CIA director William Colby, Operation Gladio was 'a
major program'; this was not some small fringe operation (it was a large
multinational paramilitary organization with active branches in several
European countries, operating under different code names).  From Wiki
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio> : Belgium, the secret NATO
army was code-named SDRA8, in Denmark Absalon, in Germany TD BJD, in Greece
LOK, in Luxemburg Stay-Behind, in the Netherlands I&O, in Norway ROC, in
Portugal Aginter, in Switzerland P26, in Turkey Özel Harp Dairesi, In Sweden
AGAG (Aktions Gruppen Arla Gryning), and in Austria OWSGV. However, the code
names of the secret armies in France, Finland and Spain remain unknown.


Operation Gladio has been linked to many terrorist operations conducted
during the 1980s, especially in Germany and Italy. Perhaps the most damning
terrorist operation, it has been implicated in, is the Bologna train station
massacre of 1980 (in which 85 Italian civilians waiting in the Bologna
station were brutally murdered and another 200 seriously wounded, and that
was, by many measures, the most deadly mass terrorist attack in the post
WWII Western world -- up until 911) 



"The makings of the bomb... came from an arsenal used by Gladio... according
to a parliamentary commission on terrorism... The suggested link with the
Bologna massacre is potentially the most serious of all the accusations
levelled against Gladio, and comes just two days after the Italian Prime
Minister, Giulio Andreotti, cleared Gladio's name in a speech to parliament,
saying that the secret army did not drift from its formal Nato military


Brent – the facts basically speak for themselves. The government (or rather
occult elements in the government) DID engineer the creation and maintenance
of a clandestine secret paramilitary force, complete with large arms caches
and an organizational command structure and thousands of members, across
many European nations (and in the US – from where it was largely run out of
Langley Virginia). Invoking the principle of Occam’s razor, while usually
valid, does not always mean that the actual reality is more complex and
convoluted than the simple (but perhaps naïve ) explanation suggested by
applying this principle.



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