On 30 September 2013 12:15, Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Although this is lateral to what I wanted to say,... the decline
> standpoint is just the opposite of the "the heaven is coming" of the
> uthopians. The latter is genuinelly western and postchristian (I would say
> puritan)

Yes, interesting idea. "Heaven is a place on Earth", indeed?

> WTF is a good question ;)
>> or...

"WTF is a good question?"

(in the same vein as "Who is the greatest Doctor!")

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