Not being prone to any Nobel prizes, I watch them pretty objectively. Alfred Nobel established it due to his biting conscience: he wanted to eliminate ALL wars by inventing (and starting to manufacture) the stuff he deemed too aggressive to let people wage wars in his future: a wholesale production of nitro glycerin. He observed the failure: HIS stuff made WARS even more ferocious - so he dedicated his fortune (from nitro) to serve good humanitarian (v.lc. scientific) achievements. He honored the Swedish Royal Family with assigning the prizes - a body surely not on top of new science, but trustable in objectivity and choice of experts.
I don't know much about the *Higgs boson*, according to some scientific gossip he tried to withdraw it - to no avail, it was already 'too big' to fall. I am also quite ignorant about the chemistry choice of the following day's decision: in *computerized chemistry* (3-way split) which started to unfold during the time of my retirement when I still 'believed' IN atoms and molecules. (Lately being washed away into agnosticism as explanatory figments of a Physical World level) The so called *Peace Prize* (maybe the No.1 as added to Nobel's original list) is tricky in a world of constant warring. This year's choice *(the UN-based - Organization to supervise the annihilation of Assad's chemical weapons*) - and not the Assad-regime *DOING* the annihilation is again a joke. It leaves out the AlQaeda and ilk ("rebel"?) parties holding a good part of such weaponry - mostly conquered earlier from the Syrian forces. And an agreeing remark to Bruno: IMO: not *Brout "died early"*: the Nobel Committee was late. Peoples should get celebrated even in 'posthumus' awards. John M On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 09 Oct 2013, at 22:22, meekerdb wrote: > > On 10/9/2013 12:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 08 Oct 2013, at 23:56, LizR wrote: > > > > http://www.quantumdiaries.org/2013/10/08/and-the-2013-nobel-prize-in-physics-goes-to/ > > Today the 2013 Nobel Prize in > Physics<http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2013/>was > awarded to François Englert (Université Libre de Bruxelles, Belgium) > and Peter W. Higgs (University of Edinburgh, UK). The official citation is > “for the theoretical discovery of a mechanism that contributes to our > understanding of the origin of mass of subatomic particles, and which > recently was confirmed through the discovery of the predicted fundamental > particle, by the ATLAS and CMS experiments at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider.” > > > > I know him very well. I begun my work in his team, with Robert Brout. He > asked me how to apply QM in cosmology, and I refer to the MWI. He added > some footnote in one of his papers, just referring to Everett's original > work, without any detail. He didn't like this, but somehow understood it is > hard to make sense of quantum cosmology without it. > I am happy that after 50 years he is recognized as one the main discover > of the "Higgs boson". I am happy for Higgs too. > > > The seminal papers suggesting the higgs-field were written independently > about the same time by Higgs, by Englert and Brout, and also by Kibble, > Gaulnik, and Hagen. I've often thought the it came to called the higgs > boson just because it's a lot easier to say "higgs" than "englert-brout" or > "kibble-gaulnik-hagen". I understand that Peter Higgs is a very nice, > modest man and is a little embarassed by having the particle named after > him, although he did develop the idea a little more than the others and is > certainly deserving. > > > But in my view, even more deserving are the thousands of engineers, > technicians, and physicists who designed and built the LHC and the ATLAS > and CMS detectors. Surely the most amazing machine ever built. > > > I agree. In a forum someone asked if the Nobel prize should not be given > to those who made the LHC, and the answer was that they were too many ... > I find unfair also that there is no post-mortem Nobel prize, as Robert > Brout deserves it too, but then he died too early. > Well, the mathematician's Field medal is worse, you have to be younger > than 40! > > But all this is vanity. François Englert said that he was happy with the > Nobel prize, but that he was still more happier from having done his > fundamental research. > > > > > > Now, the Nobel prize itself has been obscured by "Obama's peace prize", > like if it was giving him the right to use drones to kill civilians, or to > sign the NDAA ... Englert should have refuse it, perhaps, like Sartre in > France or Perelman in Russia, ... I am not really serious, as it seems than > the scientific Nobel prize is more seriously attributed. > > > Fortunately. > > The Nobel Peace Prize has been wielded as a tool of political influence > and has thereby become almost meaningless. Obama got it for being a little > less bellicose that George Bush. > > > ... before his term! (may be we are in a Gödel rotative universe, with > time loops, in which case they could give the Nobel prize of physics, also > before the research is done ... :) > > Bruno > > > Brent > "Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the > Nobel Peace Prize." > --- Tom Lehrer > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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