On Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:54:29 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
> On 10/12/2013 12:49 AM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
> Yes, but you see, even the food we get from the restaurant, is delicious.
> Why would it be delicious, assuming COMP. How could the primary modalities
> of things be good or bad assuming COMP? I know most people here think Craig
> is a hand waver, but I honestly cannot understand how qualia emerge from
> quantia, including their(meaning, my experiences) magically "emerge" from
> the many quants that Bruno's idea seems to require.
> Emergence is a description of how we think about our models of the world -
> not something in the world. So Bruno has a theory in which some parts are
> true but incommunicable. He identifies these with qualia because that is
> (supposedly) a characteristic of qualia. That's actually how all
> scientific theories work: you hypothesize a model, including connections to
> observations and see if it has explanatory and predictive power.
Isn't the the characteristic of "true but incommunicable" math a rather
thin premise to suggest that the incommunicability of some truth = the
appearance of flavors, colors, sounds, etc?
> On Saturday, October 12, 2013 1:00:38 AM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
>> On 10/11/2013 9:44 PM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
>> Sometimes, Bruno, I get the feeling as though you are a chef at a
>> restaurant with a wonderful menu, but whenever anyone orders an item on it,
>> all you can do is give them exactly the same picture of the item they
>> ordered from the menu, but never the real thing!!!
>> By the way, I do think your restaurant in terms of philosophical and
>> intellectual satisfaction is one of the best in town!
>> Metaphysics is a restaurant where they give you a 30,000 page menu and no
>> --- Robert Pirsig
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