On 13 Oct 2013, at 06:47, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:54:29 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
On 10/12/2013 12:49 AM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
Yes, but you see, even the food we get from the restaurant, is
delicious. Why would it be delicious, assuming COMP. How could the
primary modalities of things be good or bad assuming COMP? I know
most people here think Craig is a hand waver, but I honestly cannot
understand how qualia emerge from quantia, including their(meaning,
my experiences) magically "emerge" from the many quants that
Bruno's idea seems to require.
Emergence is a description of how we think about our models of the
world - not something in the world. So Bruno has a theory in which
some parts are true but incommunicable. He identifies these with
qualia because that is (supposedly) a characteristic of qualia.
That's actually how all scientific theories work: you hypothesize a
model, including connections to observations and see if it has
explanatory and predictive power.
Isn't the the characteristic of "true but incommunicable" math a
rather thin premise to suggest that the incommunicability of some
truth = the appearance of flavors, colors, sounds, etc?
"true but incommunicable" applies to three hypostases, and thus get
three different logics. How do you know in advance that one of them
will not throw some light on the qualia problem? Try to answer this
without begging the question.
Bruno
Craig
Brent
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 1:00:38 AM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
On 10/11/2013 9:44 PM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
Sometimes, Bruno, I get the feeling as though you are a chef at a
restaurant with a wonderful menu, but whenever anyone orders an
item on it, all you can do is give them exactly the same picture
of the item they ordered from the menu, but never the real thing!!!
By the way, I do think your restaurant in terms of philosophical
and intellectual satisfaction is one of the best in town!
Metaphysics is a restaurant where they give you a 30,000 page menu
and no food.
--- Robert Pirsig
Brent
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