On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:05:46AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 13 Oct 2013, at 06:47, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > > >On Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:54:29 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > >On 10/12/2013 12:49 AM, freqflyer07281972 wrote: > >>Yes, but you see, even the food we get from the restaurant, is > >>delicious. Why would it be delicious, assuming COMP. How could > >>the primary modalities of things be good or bad assuming COMP? I > >>know most people here think Craig is a hand waver, but I > >>honestly cannot understand how qualia emerge from quantia, > >>including their(meaning, my experiences) magically "emerge" from > >>the many quants that Bruno's idea seems to require. > > > >Emergence is a description of how we think about our models of the > >world - not something in the world. So Bruno has a theory in > >which some parts are true but incommunicable. He identifies these > >with qualia because that is (supposedly) a characteristic of > >qualia. That's actually how all scientific theories work: you > >hypothesize a model, including connections to observations and see > >if it has explanatory and predictive power. > > > >Isn't the the characteristic of "true but incommunicable" math a > >rather thin premise to suggest that the incommunicability of some > >truth = the appearance of flavors, colors, sounds, etc? > > "true but incommunicable" applies to three hypostases, and thus get > three different logics. How do you know in advance that one of them > will not throw some light on the qualia problem? Try to answer this > without begging the question. > > Bruno >
How do we know that those 3 hypostases exhaust the possibilities for logics containing true but incommunicable sentences? I do think Craig has a point here. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
