On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:52:48 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote:
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> Sorry I should have added... your statement "A human body may be a 
> machine" contradicts "a machine does not build itself from a single 
> reproducing cell. A machine does not care what it is doing, it doesn't get 
> bored or tired" - unless a human being is not the same thing as a human 
> body, of course. Is that the point?
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Right, a human body is not the same thing as a human being. A human body is 
still a body after the human ceases being. Not because there is an 
immaterial spirit, but because the entire universe is a nested experience 
and the body is more about experiences on the cellular and molecular level 
than it is about individual lifetimes.

Craig
 

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> On 16 October 2013 13:51, LizR <liz...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
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>> On 16 October 2013 13:48, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com<javascript:>
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>>> No, that's begging the question. A human body may be a machine, but that 
>>> does not mean that a human experience can be created from the outside in. 
>>> That's what all of these points are about - a machine does not build itself 
>>> from a single reproducing cell. A machine does not care what it is doing, 
>>> it doesn't get bored or tired. A machine is great at doing things that 
>>> people are terrible at doing and vice versa. There is much more evidence to 
>>> suggest that human experience is the polar opposite of mechanism than that 
>>> it could be defined by mechanism.
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>>> So what is a human being, if not a (very complicated, 
>> molecular-component-containing) machine? (Or is "machine" being defined in 
>> a specialised sense here?) 
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