On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:52:48 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote:
> Sorry I should have added... your statement "A human body may be a
> machine" contradicts "a machine does not build itself from a single
> reproducing cell. A machine does not care what it is doing, it doesn't get
> bored or tired" - unless a human being is not the same thing as a human
> body, of course. Is that the point?
Right, a human body is not the same thing as a human being. A human body is
still a body after the human ceases being. Not because there is an
immaterial spirit, but because the entire universe is a nested experience
and the body is more about experiences on the cellular and molecular level
than it is about individual lifetimes.
>> > wrote:
>>> No, that's begging the question. A human body may be a machine, but that
>>> does not mean that a human experience can be created from the outside in.
>>> That's what all of these points are about - a machine does not build itself
>>> from a single reproducing cell. A machine does not care what it is doing,
>>> it doesn't get bored or tired. A machine is great at doing things that
>>> people are terrible at doing and vice versa. There is much more evidence to
>>> suggest that human experience is the polar opposite of mechanism than that
>>> it could be defined by mechanism.
>>> So what is a human being, if not a (very complicated,
>> molecular-component-containing) machine? (Or is "machine" being defined in
>> a specialised sense here?)
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