It's not a sequence, it's different scopes of simultaneous. I decide to go to the store. That's A. I get in the car and the car drives to the store. That's B. The physical event B is cause by personal motive A. There is no physical event which specifically would have caused A if it were not for my personal contribution in 'clutching' together various histories and narratives to arrive at a novel cause which is entering the public universe from a private vantage point that I am saying is trans-ontological. > Event "B" may correspond > to choosing coffee over tea or it may correspond to tachycardia, but > it was *caused* by event "A". No cause exists without awareness that has 1) memory, and 2) an application of causality to that memory. Cause, like simultaneity, is not absolute, it is a fictional perspective generated through a particular type of awareness, IMO. > Sometimes, "B" may be random or > uncaused, like radioactive decay. But you have a concept of "B" being > "spontaneous", which means (as far as I can work out) neither caused > by antecedent physical events nor uncaused by antecedent physical > events. And that seems not only wrong, but meaningless. > Spontaneous is primordial. It comes before cause and before all antecedents. It is before the beginning. All causes can be traced back to the spontaneous. You are looking at the consequence of that spontaneity as it appears to our body, after the fact, as public measurements. That is not fundamental, it is derived from the more fundamental - the capacity to appreciate form and participate in function which must precede all repeating functions or stable forms. Craig > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.