Isn't a corporation a Turing emulable machine though? It seems like its 
just a matter of properly configuring a corporation's functions to tap into 
the arithmetic truths of self-reference, and then it would have to be a 
person...unless you believe in zombies.


On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:49:06 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote:
>
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 06:41:16AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > On Friday, October 18, 2013 7:22:04 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 18 Oct 2013, at 23:02, John Mikes wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Bruno: "what" is a person? (according to the US Supreme Court lately: 
> > > a Corporation, but I don't buy that) 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You are right. Making a corporation into a person is a total shameful 
> > > superdangerous idea (for our human rights). 
> > > 
> > > A person is an abstract type related to machines or entities having 
> enough 
> > > self-referential power. 
> > > 
> > 
> > Are you sure that you are not racist against baby corporations? Maybe 
> you 
> > are strangling them in the crib? 
> > 
>
> This is arguing over terminology. Replace person by "responsible 
> agent", and you get the legal meaning used above. Not all responsible 
> agents are persons by Bruno's definition. In fact, not all persons are 
> considered responsible agents - in most legal systems, children are 
> not considered responsible for most purposes, but they are most 
> definitely people by Bruno's def. 
>
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