On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au>wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 02:33:54AM -0500, Jason Resch wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au > >wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 07:33:42PM -0500, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > > > > If there is anything in reality that knows what it is like to be > you, and > > > > knows what it is like to be me, then we are both it. > > > > > > > > > > That seems a big "if". > > > > > > > Well, as one who's theory of everything derives from the theory of > nothing, > > is the existence of such a being not guaranteed by that theory? > > > > That theory is that all possible experiences are in fact > experienced. Why does being you and me simultaneously consitute a > possible experience? It does not follow. > >From your webpage: "The *Theory of Nothing* was a book I published in 2006, in which I explored the consequences of assuming: 1. Everything exists, and 2. The reality we observe must be compatible with our existence within that reality." What I was saying was that if everything exists, then Jupiter brains who have experienced 10^100 lifetimes exist. As such they serve as hubs linking disparate states of consciousness, and there is something in reality that knows what it is like to be you and knows what it is like to be me. Neither of us, based on our current experience, can say whether we are a biological human, or a dream of a Jupiter brain. Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In such a case, universalism makes no sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the evolution of a person which eventually leads to all > possible > > > > states is only one of the arguments in support universalism. > > > > > > What is this evolution you speak of? > > > > > > > > > The immortality of computationalism/many worlds, coupled with the > infinite > > variation in reality. > > > > OK - but only if there exist consious paths between all possible > states. That is what I doubt. > > > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > " -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.