On Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:34:04 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Craig Weinberg
> > On Saturday, October 26, 2013 5:29:46 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
> >> > Couldn't there just be a routine that traps the error of believing
> >> > are
> >> > intelligent?
> >> In parallel to Bruno's reply, one problem I see with naif AI is one
> >> that you may sympathise with: it is mostly built with symbols that are
> >> directly imported from humans. So if there is some
> >> "isIntelligent(self)" function that it can call, this is already too
> >> naif, you turned the thing into a mindless parrot.
> > The routine need not choke the entire program, just act as an alert. It
> > doesn't have to become a parrot, we can just put canaries in some of its
> > coal mines.
> >> Real AI will be able to create its own representations, just like we
> >> do. Artificial Neural Networks and Evolutionary Computation do this to
> >> a degree, but are too black-boxy for my (current) taste.
> > To me, the issue is not with representation, but presentation.
> >> > Since you are a machine that understands that believing you are
> >> > intelligent is stupid, why do you still have to have a terrestrial
> >> > life?
> >> Maybe the answer is simply: because it's possible.
> > Not sure what you mean.
> Simply that if it's possible for a machine to forget certain things
> about itself and thus become human, then this is sufficient
> explanation for our existence. This, of course, adopting this mailing
> list's "dogma" that everything that can exist does exist.
My point though was why wouldn't the human go back to being a machine once
they figured out what they have forgotten?
> > Craig
> >> Telmo.
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