On 11/4/2013 4:31 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
As Telmo indicated , Rand, railed against unlimited state power, which is what Marxism
and Fascism are all about. Her individualism, stuff is central to her philosophy, but
breaks down to the argument that being forced to donate is no donation at all, but
extortion from unlimited state power. Mieses and Hayek observed this in action, and it
was the conclusion that one reason the German public kept silent during the Holocaust,
was they were bought off by "social services access." This was the conclusion of a
German citizen of Turkish origin, an academic. I might be able to look up this academic,
Hayek would be reviled by the Tea Baggers and libertarians as a "socialist":
"But there are two kinds of security: the certainty of a given minimum of sustenance for
all and the security of a given standard of life, of the relative position which one
person or group enjoys compared with others. There is no reason why, in a society which
has reached the general level of wealth ours has, the first kind of security should not be
guaranteed to all without endangering general freedom; that is: some minimum of food,
shelter and clothing, sufficient to preserve health. Nor is there any reason why the state
should not help to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance in providing for
those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision. "
--- Frederick Hayek, "The Road to Serfdom"
Secondly, has anyone here when referring to US healthcare (Yeah I know that is a
separate thread) knows what Medicaid and Medicare are? Thirdly, does anyone know that
Scalia took, fellow, justice, Elena Kagan, deer hunting a few months ago? Scalia may
believe in a devil, but he does make nice nice with his political opposite, and gay
cohort on the US Supreme Court. Sounds like a regular storm trooper to me!
Strumabteilung, as the Germans called it.
Lastly, has anyone ever met a real, live, Tea Partier, or Tea Bagger, how ever you wish
to term it?
No, but I know several libertarians, with one of whom I've publicly debated
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