I was thinking specifically of Max Tegmark's MUH. He considers minds to be "subsystems" of the maths - he doesn't say anything about computations existing in arithmetic. So I think he probably hasn't developed that aspect of the theory to the extent that you have, and may not realise the full implications. Have you had any communication with him? It could be interesting to combine your ideas.

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On 7 November 2013 12:39, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 06 Nov 2013, at 22:17, LizR wrote: > > If the Mathematical Universe Hypothesis is correct, spacetime (and > everything else) is an emergent feature of maths, which makes it a > secondary feature of a nonphysical, Platonic object, though not mind. > > > > And if we are digitalizable machine, then the Mathematical Universe > hypothesis is correct for the ontology, and we need only elementary > arithmetic, and physics is a secondary feature, but it *is* a mind fetaure, > with the mind emerging from the computations (existing by elementary > arithmetic). > > By allowing an observer to be a non-machine *of some kind*, you can need > richer mathematical theologies/physics, but that's not entirely clear to me. > > The mind itself cannot be entirely mathematical. At least, nor from > inside, where we are living (now), assuming we are machine. > > So if we consider both the 3p and the 1p, the mathematical hypothesis is > only 99,9998% correct. The tail of the cow can't go through the window! > > Bruno > > > > > > > > On 7 November 2013 07:01, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Roger, Perhaps it is because you are just plain wrong. Richard >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net>wrote: >> >>> *Spacetime is (nonphysical, platonic) mind* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *I am shocked to find that so far I have notfound a scientist anywhere >>> that understandsthat spacetime, being just lawful behavior (laws)is >>> platonic (is mind). Perhaps they consider it to be quantumgravity. Dr. >>> Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]See my Leibniz site >>> athttp://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough >>> <http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough>* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.