On 10 Nov 2013, at 19:31, meekerdb wrote:

On 11/9/2013 11:37 PM, LizR wrote:
On 10 November 2013 08:13, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
On 11/9/2013 1:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Tegmark thinks he will survive, if the gun works sufficiently well. if not he might degrade and eventually ... die. This makes no sense to me. It is annoying, but we can degrade a lot, yet we can't die (with just comp, or, ITSM, with just the quantum MWI). With comp, we can expect jump, and "consciousness phase transition", though.

Aside from not finding myself the oldest person on the planet, I see a problem with quantum immortality in that quantum mechanics is time-reverse invariant. So I should be 'past immortal' also. But as Mark Twain said, "I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it." If we are what our brains do it is easy to see why we should live from past (low entropy) to future (higher entropy), be born and die.

Leaving aside time reversibility (which I am myself rather hot on) for a moment, if you're quantum immortal you can only expect to eventually find yourself the oldest person. Give it time. You have to go through the bit beforehand beforehand...

True, but finding yourself in the first 1/N of your life when N=inf is highly unlikely.

Accepting some absolute self-sampling assumption (ASSA), which should not be assumed. This does not mean that you are not doing a point, but that you should recast it in the Relative SSA (RSSA).

Bruno


http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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