On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:45 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> On 11/12/2013 2:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>>
>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 04:44, meekerdb wrote:
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>>
>>   Experience may be like that; everything has 'experience', it's just not
>>> human experience and when you stop having human experience you're dead.
>>>
>>>
>> Why? If by dying we remember being something different from human, I
>> would still feel like I am surviving. (Amazingly, salvia can lead to such
>> an experience/hallucination).
>>
>
> Yes, if you remember.  But I don't remember anything earlier than about
> age 4 and neither do other people I know.  Which then implies that we are
> not past eternal and so it is possible to not be future eternal.


You may be jumping to conclusions.  All that implies is that you don't
currently have access to infinite memories.  Having infinite memories, and
having access to infinite memories, are quite different from having an
eternal past.

Jason


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>
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>> Also, with comp, not everything has experience. Only persons, and they
>> need the support of some computational self-reference ability.
>>
>
> And brains provide that support.
>
> Brent
>
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