Bruno,  Could comp possibly work without the infinities.?
Richard

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

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> On 02 Dec 2013, at 21:40, meekerdb wrote:
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>  On 12/2/2013 8:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>   I'm sorry but we will have to agree we disagree on that. You're also
> misleading atheistic position, and you're wrongly attributing "belief" to
> atheist people (especially belgians)... I'm belgian, I'm not a materialist,
> I consider myself atheist in regards of religions, and that's what most
> atheist means when they say they are atheist.
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>
>  Call it "ultimate reality".  It is OK, until you grasp enough of comp to
> see that this rings a bit faulty.
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>  There is no problem to call it "ultimate reality", as long as you are
> open it might have "personal" aspects, and have no prejudice on wht that
> "ultimate reality" can be (with this or that hypothesis).
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>
> Then you should have no prejudice toward accepting matter as the possible
> "ultimate reality".
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>
> I don't have any prejudice. I am just saying that IF comp is correct, then
> matter or the observable is given by some infinite sums on  infinitely many
> universal numbers. And so it is testable, accepting the most standard
> definitions in the crossed fields.
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>
>
> It too might have personal aspect.
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>
> It sure has.
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> (It is, roughly, and plausibly, the nuance between Bp & Dt, (no first
> personal aspect) and Bp & Dt & p, p sigma_1 (first personal aspect))
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> They give arithmetical quantizations, and it is a technical difficulty to
> see if they emulate a quantum machine or not.
>
> I have no prejudice at all. I am agnostic on both matter and god. I just
> try to put the pieces of the puzzle in the "correct place", assuming an
> hypothesis which helps for intuitive reasoning, and their translation in
> math.
>
> Bruno
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> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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