On 12/20/2013 10:50 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com <mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>>
> Do you agree that after turning this computer on, and letting it run for
enough time (eternity let's say), there is a 100% chance John Clark will
find himself in this computer
Yes, in fact it may have already happened.
>> That would only be true if everything that could exist does exist,
that's the way things are but it is not obviously true.
>It doesn't require that everything to exist, it requires only one
program to exist: the universal dovetailer. This program and its execution
I'm pretty confident that such a program exists within mathematics, but I am far less
confident that a computer to run it on also exists at that same level of reality; I'm
not saying it doesn't, maybe it does, but I don't know it for a fact. With today's
emphasis on software sometimes we forget that a program is useless without hardware to
run it on.
> For example, it is a true statement that the state of this program after
10^100th step of its computation has some particular value X, and it is
also a true
statement that the 10^100 + 1 step has some other particular value Y. It is
true statement that the program corresponding to the emulation of the wave
for the Milky Way Galaxy contains John Clark and this particular John Clark
he is conscious and alive and sitting in front of a computer in a physical
For that you don't need to bring in Everett or Quantum Mechanics or virtual worlds or
dovetailing or computers, all you need are the 19'th century ideas of Ludwig Boltzmann.
There are a gargantuan number of ways the atoms in my 200 pound body could be organized,
but there are not a infinite number, therefore if the universe is spatially infinite
10^1000 light years away (give or take a few hundred thousand million billion trillion)
there can be no doubt that John Clark is typing a post to the Everything list about
And thinking the same thoughts...in which case it's the same John Clark...until some
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