Ok, I'll bite :)
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:
> I'll present a brief overview of my theory of consciousness from my book on
> Reality here. If anyone is interested I can elaborate.
> To understand consciousness we first must clearly distinguish between
> consciousness ITSELF and
> the contents of consciousness that become conscious
This seems circular.
> by appearing within consciousness itself.
> The nature of consciousness itself, why things seem conscious,
I would argue that why things seem conscious can be explained with
neuroscience + computer science. The real mystery is why I am
> is the
> subject of Chalmer's 'Hard Problem', whereas the various structures of the
> contents of consciousness are the so called 'Easy Problems', the subjects of
> the study of mind.
Several theories of mind address consciousness, notably comp (as Liz
> Chalmer's formulation of the Hard Problem is 'How does consciousness arise
> from a physical brain?' Let's generalized this a little to 'How does
> consciousness arise from a physical world?'
Here you're already making a strong assumption. How do you know it's
not the other way round: the physical world arising from
> The key to the solution is understanding that the world is not 'physical' in
> the sense assumed. It is not a passive clockwork Newtonian world that just
> sits there waiting to be brought into consciousness by an observer. In fact
> the notion of observation is intrinsic to reality itself in a manner that
> reality actively manifests most of the defining attributes of reality on its
> own and all the conscious observer adds is participation in that process
> from a particular locus with a particular computational nformation
> I'll explain how this works though the theory is subtle and requires some
> work, and there is a lot to it I don't cover here.
> In ancient times there was an extramission (emission) theory of vision, that
> objects were seen because the eyes shown light on them. Today we still have
> the functionally identical emission theory of consciousness, that things
> become conscious because mind somehow shines consciousness on them.
> Both theories are wrong. Things are conscious because reality continually
> SELF-MANIFESTS itself. It continually computes itself into existence, and
> existence self-manifests.
This makes sense to me. I have similar intuitions but I don't feel
this is sufficiently rigorous or well-defined (as my intuitions are
> It is immanent because it is actually real, and
> actually present, and has actual being. This is what I call Ontological
> Energy (OE).
Ok but I dislike this kind of overloading of terms. Unless you argue
that Ontological Energy has some convincing similarities to the well
accepted concept of energy.
> Things are really really real, they are really actually there,
> and consciousness just opens its 'eyes' and participates in this reality.
> Rather than the mind shining consciousness onto things, things manifest
> their actual reality, their actual real presence in reality, to whatever
> interacts with them, including human brains.
So are dreams real?
> The only thing an individual observer brings to consciousness is an
> interaction with reality from a particular location, and an interaction with
> the information contents of consciousness filtered through its own
> perceptual cognitive structure.
> Thus consciousness itself is simply the immanent actual real presence of
> reality, whereas the information structures of the contents of conscious are
> due to information computations of the brain interacting with information
> from external reality.
So what you're saying is: stuff is conscious, stuff is complex?
> This is the best, most convincing theory of consciousness of which I'm
> aware. But like most of my theories it requires a big paradigm shift in
> understanding since it's a completely new interpretation of reality.
Edgar, I agree with some of what you say here, but I don't understand
what the theory is. It feels more like a collection of intuitions. Do
you think you could make your theory more explicit and precise?
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