On 04 Feb 2014, at 15:33, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
All,
1. In my view real science means only the equations that actually
work to predict events and the logical framework in which those
equations are meaningfully applied. In a more restrictive sense real
science is only the ACTUAL computations that actually compute the
actual state of reality.
That is not science at all. That is a an opinion, and you have not
commented the refutation given.
Bruno
That would mean that most of the equations of science which apply at
the aggregate level are just descriptions rather than actual reality
computations which I would claim occur only at the most elemental
level. Thus e.g. the laws of motion and the behavior of gases are
accurate DESCRIPTIONS of emergent behavior but are not actually
involved in computing that behavior. The real computations are
programs at the elemental level, and are those that compute the
conservation of particle properties in particle interactions, and
the bonding of matter, etc. So one can make a case that it is only
these equations or programs that constitute real science.
Also note that real science does not consists of static equations
that require scientists to apply them, but must consist of actual
running programs that apply themselves without the help of
scientists. Real science, in my strict sense, is programatic
simulation of those actual programs on silicon computers of the
actual programs that compute reality. This is because programs, as
opposed to static equations, include the implicit logical context of
the mathematical equations by embedding them within that logical
structure. Real science in this sense does not require a scientist
to apply it. It computes predictable results all by itself when fed
inputs.
2. All the rest is not real science but meta-theories, philosophy,
or interpretations of science. This is NOT to say that it is not
useful or valid, but just to point out its actual status. From this
perspective almost ALL of what currently passes for science, on this
list and elsewhere, is not actually science, but interpretations of
science, or META-science.
3. Meta-science is NOT in a one to one correspondence with the
underlying science it interprets because there can be and often are
multiple competing interpretations of the same areas of real science.
4. Interpretations of science thus obviously include projections of
personal world views onto the underlying science, and are creatures
of personal belief systems designed to help make sense of the
underlying science in terms of personal and socially current memes.
As such they are always suspect, especially because in general they
are NOT always subject to empirical confirmation or falsification
AND they are based on personal world views designed to make sense of
the mundane logic of things that have evolved to facilitate our
functioning in our day to day environments rather than to provide
insight into the true nature of reality.
5. Thus we must be careful to judge interpretations of science by
their logical consistency with the underlying science they
interpret, and always be on the lookout to eliminate our personal
prejudices and the mundane views of reality programmed in our minds
by evolution, and the syntactical logic of language which has
evolved to make sense of mundane rather than deep reality.
6. Given the above, what my book, and my posts, attempt to do is:
a. Accept all current established science as it is (always subject
to new advances). That means I accept all the actual science (the
actual equations in their logical matrix) of QM, SR, GR, Chemistry,
Biology, Information science, Geology etc.etc. I accept everyone of
these as it stands to the extent it results in empirically
verifiable predictions.
b. Propose an entirely new and unifying INTERPRETATION of this
science across its entire scope, which I believe is more consistent
with it and more unified and explanatory than other current
interpretations. If this is true then it provides a much deeper
insight into the true underlying nature of reality...
Whether I succeed at this only time will tell...
Edgar
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