On 3/9/2014 2:40 PM, LizR wrote:
On 10 March 2014 10:20, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net 
<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:

    On 3/9/2014 1:46 PM, LizR wrote:
    On 10 March 2014 02:15, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net
    <mailto:edgaro...@att.net>> wrote:

        Russell,

        Yes, but that is crazy because it assumes all theories are equally 
valid with
        which I disagree. Science selects theories based on which best explain 
the
        observable universe.


    This is true. David Deutsch argues for this view convincingly in "The 
Fabric of
    Reality". (Russell and Brent are not disputing this view as a practical 
approach, I
    think, they are just pointing out that there are metaphysical assumptions 
built
    into it....unless they correct me on this.)
    Deutsch pushes it strongly in "The Beginning of Infinity", but I have some
    reservations about his emphasis.  I think what makes a theory good is
    multidimensional: predictive power, scope, testability, and consilience.  
It seems
    that Deutsch recognizes these factors as part of what makes a good 
explanation, but
    "explanation" invites an interpretation of "psychological satisfaction".  
Many
    people think "God did it." is a great explanation because it works as 
psychological
    satisfaction.  It's got lots of scope, works every time, and is consilient 
with
    almost everything.  It just fails miserably on predictive power and 
testability.  I
    know Deutsch doesn't mean it this way, but it's why I don't like his 
emphasis on the
    word "explanation" over the more neutral "theory".


But are you happy with what he says apart from his nomenclature?

(If so, I guess his explanation has achieved "psychological satisfaction"...)

"God did it" isn't a theory or an explanation unless it goes into more depth about what God is, why it exists and how it does things, and uses these details to make some testable predictions that will separate it out from other theories (Allah did it, Zeus did it, Odin did it, Amaterasu did it, etc). Actually GDI has a whole raft of predictions about how God will take care of his chosen group, how he will end the world in, er, some time soon, how he created the world in 7 days, how he will intercede if you pray hard enough, etc.

None of which so far appear to have been borne out, making GDI both testable and fallible, also tested and failed.

The predictions have all failed, but the *explanations* are batting a thousand. There's a whole industry called apologia turning them out as needed.

Brent

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