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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LizR
If we could just get away from one planet ... but the difficulty is, well,
astronomical. Before now we could always leave the place where disaster
struck, move from the valley where the soil was full of salt or whatever,
start again with a fresh load of resources. I can't see us doing that this
time, though.
Basically, what is now happening is that Homo Rapiens has run out of new
land to rape; either we adopt sustainable practice and live with a light
material footprint or we go the way of other plague species when they have
killed their host.
Chris
On 16 March 2014 14:32, <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:02:31 PM UTC, Liz R wrote:
Oh, and once this happens, that will be it for humanity, of course, because
we can't restart civilisation with no easily accessible fuel sources. So
we'll stay in the middle ages until a passing comet gets us (or similar).
This does of course explain why SETI hasn't found anything. Hell of a way to
prove a theory though.
Earlier collapses where small and local, but almost nothing ever survived.
The bigger the progress, the great the surge, the more the feedback to yet
more progress, the steeper the exponential dimensional growth of the
potentiality and the sophistication. But the complexity of the problems
rises exponentially to for linear steps. The progress has a lifespan, and
the lifespan...the life span is exponential as per the extents of the
fundamental progress and breakthrough. But in thye end the progress starts
to slow away from the exponential, and the result is unhandled problems,
which diminish the overall potential of the system, thus progress dimishes
at a faster rate, and the problems and complexities start to run ahead. How
far those problems and complexities run ahead before the collapse, is the
scale of the catastrophe. How fare it gets is about energy. Fat...how much
capacity has a society or a people accumulated, and how recklessly and
destructively it is now being spent, and who controls the process now, and
what is in their nature. The West and rest amassed unbelievable excess
energy, in prosperity, productivity, efficiency, technology, science. Now it
is being spent at a rate that also goes up exponentially. We just don't see
that because we don't understand the nature of energy, so we only see a
partial view of it the part we do understand. But the energy compared to the
biggest collapse on this dynamic before us, is like the Sun to the Moon. Our
energy is feeding into the trap and it grows bigger and bigger...it's huge
now. yet we still have more to put it.
There isn't going to be another day for the human dream. There's one way,
and that's to save this day. But it's a window held open by as little as a
single thread. The reversal is a reversal of everything, of ideas, of
potentials, of ideologies, of minds. Everything that was the most promising
and good becomes the worst of the most destructive and foul. Nothing is the
right vehicle for that turnaround. So the nature of the challenge is
something that becomes and evolves from within itself, does not ask for
permission or explain or persuade, just attaches, extracts, realigns and
corrects. It's a process that would need to be a 2nd scientific revolution,
a revolution of economics, of society, of strategy and of mind. This is the
theory that is needed. Not one that goes into a 'paper' and asks to be read
and loved and adopted by a world gone hive. But a theory directly
existential, that becomes an evolution....of strategy that gets it right,
everything. So has time to evolve, and solves for evolution within itself,
and for a consciousness such that it's an extension of us, and between us,
more than us, but no more than any one of us. A consciousness can turn hive,
like everything else. There's a right way to evolve it and up to an infinity
of degree by which to get it wrong. How right, or how long is how long
before the reversal.
We're not a long lived species. Look at the graph of human species, bar one,
long ago now gone, the species burn out quicker and quicker leading up to
us. We're paying for greateess in longevity. There's a playoff, an exchange
of a finite furtherest extent.
And how many times has the universe got evolution to this precise point, and
how many times has evolution failed to find the way over this huge hump.
Evolution produces us, so we're part of it, we're the big hope, that's the
natural selection force that has to be unbelievable strong. We the eggs and
the one basket. We show up again and again on the most successful living
planets. Again nd again we get here. Does anyone in the whole universe yet,
any planet any us anywhere, get beyond here.
So much is fiddling in the fire....making theories the way they got made in
the 19th century. The new kind of theory, isn't a theory, isn't anything
like anything that has ever been seen before. The new kind of theory to
save this day.
On the other hand, when was the last time I took my meds?
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