On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:41:30 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 16 Mar 2014, at 05:17, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:00:48 PM UTC-4, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >> >> Craig, >> >> Hmmm, let me see. If I just take my eye out of its socket and turn it >> around then I guess by your theory I'd have self awareness? >> > > It's not my theory, but does computationalism provide a reason why your > eye looking in the mirror doesn't have self-awareness? > > > The mirror does not compute. >
How do you know you're not being racist against mirrors? Craig > > Bruno > > > > >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:09:27 PM UTC-4, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> >>> >>> <https://31.media.tumblr.com/935c9f6ad77f94164442956d8929da19/tumblr_mncj8t2OCc1qz63ydo10_250.gif> >>> http://www.jesseengland.net/index.php?/project/vide-uhhh/ >>> >>> Have a look at this quick video (or get the idea from this_) >>> >>> Since the VCR can get video feedback of itself, is there any >>> computational reason why this doesn't count as a degree of self awareness? >>> Would VCRs which have 'seen themselves' in this way have a greater chance >>> of developing that awareness than those which have not? If not, what >>> initial conditions would be necessary for such an awareness to develop in >>> some machines and how would those initial conditions appear? >>> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

