On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:41:30 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 16 Mar 2014, at 05:17, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:00:48 PM UTC-4, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
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>> Hmmm, let me see. If I just take my eye out of its socket and turn it 
>> around then I guess by your theory I'd have self awareness?
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> It's not my theory, but does computationalism provide a reason why your 
> eye looking in the mirror doesn't have self-awareness?
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> The mirror does not compute.
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How do you know you're not being racist against mirrors?

Craig
 

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>> On Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:09:27 PM UTC-4, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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>>> <https://31.media.tumblr.com/935c9f6ad77f94164442956d8929da19/tumblr_mncj8t2OCc1qz63ydo10_250.gif>
>>> http://www.jesseengland.net/index.php?/project/vide-uhhh/
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>>> Have a look at this quick video (or get the idea from this_)
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>>> Since the VCR can get video feedback of itself, is there any 
>>> computational reason why this doesn't count as a degree of self awareness? 
>>> Would VCRs which have 'seen themselves' in this way have a greater chance 
>>> of developing that awareness than those which have not? If not, what 
>>> initial conditions would be necessary for such an awareness to develop in 
>>> some machines and how would those initial conditions appear?
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