Bruno, How does cloning differ from "asking the doctor". Forgive me but it seems that you are being contradictory- just to indicate that this is an important question. Richard
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 24 Mar 2014, at 00:43, Joseph Knight wrote: > > Bruno, I've seen you say before that COMP (in addition to the first-person > indeterminacy) also predicts the no-cloning theorem. Could you explain how? > > > In a purely qualitative way, that should be easy, if you succeed in > staying naive-cold with the UDA up to step 7. Imagine that I decide to copy > a piece of matter. > > Unlike information, where things are crisp at some point, it is already > not clear what is the relevant level, so an exact copy should be defined by > something like a non distinguishability with respect to some set of > instruments. > Anyway, at some point, in your zooming toward finer and finer description > of the piece of matter, you arrive at your own substitution level. At that > level, the matter is no more made of subpart, but is undetermined, as you > comp state is no more dependent of such details, and *you* diffuse on all > the possible "subcomputations", where, by the FPI, all universal machines > are somehow in competition (by the invariance of the 1p for the "length of > the proof of the sigma_1 proposition, or computations). How could you clone > that? We cannot clone an object, because an object is not a real thing, but > an information pattern, which becomes necessarily fuzzy when we look at it > below the substitution level. What we can see there is only an average of > the many possible computations below our (first person plural) substitution > level. > > OK? > > Bruno > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Fabric of Alternate Reality" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/foar. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
