On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > On Monday, April 7, 2014 4:38:42 PM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: >> >> >> >> >> 2014-04-07 22:25 GMT+02:00 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]>: >> >> >>> >>> On Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:45:35 AM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: >>>> >>>> Probably you saw people visiting houses in your neighbourhood, but >>>> that did not reached consciousnees you were busy thinking about other >>>> things. (I will not insert here these funny videos of people failing >>>> to recognize a bear in the middle of a scene). >>>> >>> >>> These kinds of dismissals are not scientific. When you have a genuinely >>> precognitive experience, you would really have to bend over backward to >>> mistake it for anything else. >>> >>> If you say so... >> >>> >>>> But according with a theory of evolutionary psychology, dreams are in >>>> order to be prepared for possible threats specially the most dangerous >>>> ones. The material of the dreams is taken from past events, and the >>>> subconscious takes into account not only the things that were you >>>> conscious of, but everithing. >>>> >>> >>> You could just as easily say that dreams are in order to confuse us so >>> that we will be unprepared for possible threats to weed out the more easily >>> confused members of the species. Just-so stories are fun to make up, but we >>> shouldn't take them seriously. >>> >>> >> You could as easily say it as well that plants are aliens. and Craig is >> the father of Dark Vader. Yes . You can say so. But it is not something >> based on the theory of evolution, that is, natural selection and >> evolutionary biology. >> > > What I'm saying though is that the theory of evolution can be used to > advance or deny any position on dreams that we care to take. It's all > reverse engineered story telling. > It is also of notice that there is a common misconception that modern evolutionary theory predicts that all features or behaviours of organisms necessarily correspond to some adaptation. This ignores genetic drift: neutral mutations can generate features and behaviours that simply don't have a significant disadvantage, also possibly as a side effect of lack of modularity + some other adaptation. > > >> >>>> And maybe, sometimes the elaborative mechanism of the dreams does work >>>> very well. In some sense it is precognitive. >>>> >>>> That is in order to protect your sacred skepticism ;) >>>> >>>> 2014-04-06 7:13 GMT+02:00, Russell Standish <[email protected]>: >>>> > On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 05:42:10AM +1000, Kim Jones wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Finally you got to it. It was a precognitive dream. I have had many, >>>> an >>>> >> enormous number throughout my life in fact, so I don't think we need >>>> to >>>> >> beat about the bush here. Some dreams "foretell" or >>>> synchronistically >>>> >> coincide with near-future events (usually cloaked in some symbolic >>>> >> representation). Period. Jung certainly thought so. We cannot >>>> explain this >>>> >> away. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > Not sure about that. It's happened maybe 2-3 times to me in my whole >>>> > life. I would call that rate "coincidence". Not statistically >>>> > significant. YMMV :). Also, presumably by chance, some people's rate >>>> > of precognitive dreams would be much higher, just like some people >>>> > are more "accident prone" than others. >>>> > >>>> > Cheers >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) >>>> > Principal, High Performance Coders >>>> > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] >>>> > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au >>>> > >>>> > Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret >>>> > (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> > "Everything List" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an >>>> > email to [email protected]. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alberto. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Alberto. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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