Liz, Pascal's wager is not good enough. Its not as simple as placing a
bet. We are fairly warned that those who claim to be Muslims will be tried
and tested. To hear how Yusuf Estes was tested: Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTIBC80cBAQ

Relevant verses:
[Quran 29:2] Do people think that they will be left alone because they say:
"We believe," and will not be tested
[Quran 76:2] Lo! We create human from a drop of thickened fluid to test
him; so We make him hearing, knowing

Samiya


On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 20 April 2014 16:01, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:34 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20 April 2014 15:15, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris, I was replying to Spudboy100 who refuses to consider the Quran
>>>> because of the 'jihadis' 'behavoir' . The point I was trying to make is
>>>> that some people, from all religious persuasions, do strange and at times
>>>> horrible things. We need to look past people and their behaviours, and
>>>> examine the religious texts to evaluate for ourselves what it is. We are
>>>> all responsible for our own beliefs and actions. We come to this world
>>>> alone, we will leave it alone. What religious label we are born in, which
>>>> religious label or not we choose, eventually we all must face death alone,
>>>> and whatever's beyond that. Wishing it away because some people are poor
>>>> ambassadors or poor communicators of the message, won't change things
>>>> according to our wishes. We humans have intelligence and a vast wondrous
>>>> world full of thoughts and ideas and science and signs... we must explore
>>>> everything we can for its own merit before discarding it.
>>>> On this Everything list, I see earnest seekers exploring almost
>>>> everything, but somehow they stop short of scripture, especially Quran. I
>>>> understand much of this has to do with a filtered view of history,
>>>> long-held prejudices, popular media, as well as the actions of people who
>>>> poorly understand or use the religion, etc.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is, at least in my case, due to a distrust of taking the authority
>>> of centuries-old texts when there is little to no evidence that any of them
>>> contain more than - at best - a slight grain of truth, and when from a
>>> present day perspective it is clear they were created for reasons well
>>> understood by psychologists (in particular, for social control).
>>>
>>>
>>>> The thing is, to understand everything, we must be willing to explore
>>>> everything.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Including Uri Geller, UFOs, a thousand people who want to "prove
>>> Einstein wrong", Borley Rectory, the people trying to sell me something
>>> from Nigeria, the Loch Ness monster, Ouija boards, Thor, Zeus, Odin and so
>>> on - yes, no doubt one shouldn't dismiss anything, but life's too short not
>>> to prioritise.
>>>
>>
>> Too short, yes! Prioritize, yes!  Especially because if there is a
>> purpose to this life, and especially if there is more to life after death,
>> and if this short life is but a test, whose result is eternal, then we
>> better study earnestly. Difficult, yes, impossible, no!
>>
>> Hmm. Pascal's wager, no less.
>

> So which of the 1000s of Gods people have invented, I mean discovered
> through divine revelation, should one bet on (and why) ?
>



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