On Thursday, May 1, 2014 7:21:19 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: > > I say that human beings (first-person) experience reality only in terms of > words, >
You think that we were born with words? > many words with some measure of meaning and some without any meaning at > all. Even the physics you mentioned are conveyed to the public as words, > and the math that is conveyed between physicists is expressed in words, > including Robinson's 1,2,3... arithmetic. You see some words, particularly > mathematical and physical terms, have special properties that are in some > measure truthful...Richard Ruquist 20140501 > > > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Craig Weinberg > <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, April 18, 2014 3:23:13 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 16 Apr 2014, at 20:10, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> >>> What generates Platonia? >>> >>> >>> >>> Nothing generates Platonia, although addition and multiplication can >>> generate the comp-relevant part of platonia, that is the UD or equivalent. >>> >>> Elementary arithmetic cannot be justified by anything less complex (in >>> Turing or logical sense). It is the minimum that we have to assume to start. >>> >> >> Saying that elementary arithmetic is the minimum that we have to start >> doesn't make sense to me. Elementary arithmetic depends on many less >> complex expectations of sequence, identity, position, motivation, etc. I >> keep repeating this but I don't think that you are willing to consider it >> scientifically. >> >> Craig >> >> >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
