On Thursday, May 1, 2014 9:07:13 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
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> On 2 May 2014 04:42, Craig Weinberg <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote:
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>> On Friday, April 18, 2014 3:23:13 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>>> On 16 Apr 2014, at 20:10, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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>>> What generates Platonia?
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>>> Nothing generates Platonia, although addition and multiplication can 
>>> generate the comp-relevant part of platonia, that is the UD or equivalent.
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>>> Elementary arithmetic cannot be justified by anything less complex (in 
>>> Turing or logical sense). It is the minimum that we have to assume to start.
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>> Saying that elementary arithmetic is the minimum that we have to start 
>> doesn't make sense to me. Elementary arithmetic depends on many less 
>> complex expectations of sequence, identity, position, motivation, etc. I 
>> keep repeating this but I don't think that you are willing to consider it 
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> Do you believe that mathematical truths are true independent of mind?
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I'm not sure what mind is. I understand that nothing can exist 
independently of sensory experience, including mathematical truths.
 

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> Stathis Papaioannou 
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