On 20 May 2014, at 20:24, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/20/2014 7:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The implications might be the abandon of materialism, which is
good, as it is a person eliminativist position.
Then the machine's theology provides a vaccine against the
reductionist conception of numbers, machines and a fortiori humans.
The main general implications is a tool for coming back to
seriousness in theology, including the origin of the physical
realities.
This announces a super-big paradigm shift where the person notion
plays a key role.
I think you're too much immersed in science. "The person notion" is
still the dominant metaphysics in 99% of the world. "Person" is at
the center of politics, religion, art, economics,... Science is
about the only human endeavor that is not person centered.
I was thinking about a shift in the fundamental science, consisting
mainly in the coming back to (neo) or (neoneo) platonism, and shifting
from Aristotle theology (on all its "gods" including the primary matter.
Then the person I talk about is not the human person, but the person
that we can (if not: have to) associated to any universal numbers.
It is NOT the human person. It is the much general Löbian one.
"Religions talk about humility. Science has humbled us."
Very nice quote. It is why I think that science is the only tool of
religion (beyong private experience we could report but not taken
literally).
As long as we believe that science and religion are separated, the
religious conceited people, and the fundamentalists, will get large
audience.
Bruno
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