On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:45 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 7/31/2014 5:03 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>  On 1 August 2014 11:25, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>   On 7/31/2014 3:52 PM, LizR wrote:
>>
>>  On 1 August 2014 09:05, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  On 7/31/2014 11:27 AM, John Clark wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:57 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  > if space-time isn't an infinitely divisible continuum, it presumably
>>>> has some sort of granularity,
>>>>
>>>
>>> Our quantum theories may need work. Quantum theories of Physics insist
>>> that space is quantized just like everything else,
>>>
>>>
>>>  I don't think that's true.  In fact all quantum field theories assume a
>>> continous spacetime.
>>>
>>
>>  I would think that at the very least they assume a continuous Hilbert
>> space.
>>
>>  That too.  But the spacetime is a kind of background to the Hilbert
>> space.  The vectors in Hilbert space are square-integrable functions of
>> positions or momenta in a continuous spacetime.  Of course it's impossible
>> empirically to prove the spacetime is continuous; computationalist can just
>> say they need more digits and hypothesize as many digits as they need.
>>
>
>  Yes, it's awlays possible to claim a granularity smaller than our best
> measurements. How does this connect with QM and it being impossible to
> measure anything smaller than the Planck length? (Or does it?)
>
>
>>   Similarly the complex field for Hilbert space could be just the
>> rational complex field; but that would imply a smallest non-zero
>> probability which in turn would undermine unitarity, Everett, and
>> time-reversibiity.
>>
>
>  I can see that unitarity would be undermined, and hence Everett (I
> think), but how come time-reversibility?
>
>  It would mean that interference terms between different "worlds" could
> not become arbitrarily small.  There would be a least quantum of
> probability and when something became more improbable than that, its
> probability would drop to zero.  Then the time evolution couldn't be
> reversed.
>
> Brent
>
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