Oops I should have read your comments rather than stopping to rattle of my reply. But I think we agree.
On 28 August 2014 11:27, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > I disagree that > > * Artificial intelligence > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence> is the simulation of > intelligence in machines.* > > That is, I don't think it can be called a simulation (obviously ELIZA > simulated having a lot more intelligence than it actually had). If a > machine is intelligent, that's the real thing, surely? The "Artificial" in > AI doesn't apply to the intelligence itself, but to the "substrate" it's > running on. This seems to me a semantic confusion on the part of the > article writer. > > > > On 28 August 2014 07:52, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Wiki identifies the (non-artificial) base: >> *For other uses, see Intelligence (disambiguation) >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_(disambiguation)>.* >> >> *Intelligence has been defined in many different ways such as in terms of >> one's capacity for logic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic>, abstract >> thought <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction>, understanding >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understanding>, self-awareness >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness>, communication >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication>, learning >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning>,emotional knowledge >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_knowledge>, memory >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory>, planning >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan>, creativity >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creativity> and problem solving >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_solving>.* >> >> *Intelligence is most widely studied in humans >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human>, but has also been observed in animals >> and in plants. Artificial intelligence >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence> is the simulation of >> intelligence in machines.* >> >> *Within the discipline of psychology >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology>, various approaches to human >> intelligence have been adopted. The psychometric >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychometric> approach is especially familiar >> to the general public, as well as being the most researched and by far the >> most widely used in practical settings.[1] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence#cite_note-APA1995-1>* >> >> IMO all the substitute "words" mean *themselves*, not intelligence. >> Accordingly the 'artificial' one would refer to simulate *THOSE terms* >> in/by machines. Not the *INTELLIGENCE.* >> >> *I like to use* the word-origin meaning: *'inter'* ligence - *legibility* or >> its variant, to understand "the in-between" what is not verbatim expressed >> in/by the 'text'. Logically, intuitively, anticipatorily, or otherwise we >> may come up in our thinking evolvement. >> >> *Artificial Intelligence *is accordingly an oxymoron. We cannot expect >> from a (any?) machine to understand (use?) the verbatim non-expressed >> (infinite potential) of some (any) content and work with it successfully. >> Yet the term is widely used for 'computers' working in 'meanings and >> conclusions' of the SO FAR deciphered domain of our thinking - translated >> into softwares of that -still-embryonical tool of digital workings we call >> our existing Turing machine. Beyond that "The Deluge". >> >> I do not share the pessimism of the good professor, our machines are not >> (yet?) up to eliminate human ingenuity in the workplaces. >> >> John Mikes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
