On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:52 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think you can get energies like 10^11Gev even in supernova.


I don't know about a supernova but we know for a fact that you can get
energies like that somewhere. The record energy for a cosmic ray particle
(probably a proton) was detected in 1991 with a energy of 3*10^11 Gev,
that's 40 million times as much energy as what he LHC in Switzerland can
produce. We can only speculate on how it was made but we do have some idea
where and when. According to something called the CZK limit cosmic rays
with energy greater than 5*10^10 Gev can't be coming from a place further
away than 160 million light years because if they were then interactions
with the cosmic microwave background radiation would slow them down and rob
them of energy.  Cosmically speaking 160 million light years is pretty
close and 160 million years is pretty recent.

> The only place I can think of that might produce that kind of energy is
> approaching the singularity of a black hole.


Or maybe the decay product of some very exotic particle unknown to science
was made in the first nanosecond after the Big Bang and has only decayed
recently into a super fast ultra energetic proton. Or maybe it came from
something even stranger.

 John K Clark

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