> On 22 Sep 2014, at 3:21 pm, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's why he can say consciousness is all-or-nothing (potentialities are > all-or-nothing). That's why he thinks an infant is more conscious than an > adult - it has more potential (but less realization). That's why he thinks > losing all your memories would leave you with the same consciousness. > > That's all follows from his definition and it's OK, although it's not the > common meaning of "conscious". What's not OK is to then rely on the > intuition that everybody knows what consciousness is and that no one can > seriously doubt it's existence. Those statements are true of common usage of > "conscious", but not necessarily true of Bruno's definition. > > Brent
Are we not conflating slightly (to be) conscious - the fact of being aware and sensate; experiencing "being" as it were.....with "consciousness" that woolly philosophical football? I think even in comman usage we don't do that. I am conscious of this or that. My consciousness is kind of my whole psyche (whatever that is - could be the whole universe or a lotus blossum or whatever). Bruno merely asserts that nobody can mistake the fact that they exist. To be conscious is to experience "being". My "consciousness" on the other hand, is the "me" the self, the subject, the "I" - you could probably say "soul" if you wanted to allude to the fact that this platonic thing you are is immortal. K -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
