On 23 Sep 2014, at 04:29, LizR wrote:

That link doesn't work on Firefox, at least not for me. But it seems OK on chrome...

I eventually can see it, but that was hard.

It is not so bad, but frankly it helps to study it without those not se easy to read drawing.

I appreciate he says "proved by PA" instead of the usual logician's "proved in PA". The first is more correct, and that plays some role in AUDA.

I will certainly come back on Löbs theorem.

BTW I recommend the following exercise for those who doubt that the MWI reinstates locality: translate the Bennett (and Al.) quantum teleportation experience in the MWI. It helped students to understand this locality issue. In one world such teleportation + reality criterion by Einstein entails real physical action at a distance (or improbable luck!), but it is easy to see the "trick" when seen in the many-world, where the classical bit needed by Bob to get the state of the photon sent by Alice, only inform bet on their common part of the multiverse they both belong. In particular, to send one qubit, Alice need to send 2 classical bit, and this helps Bob to figure out which branch of the universe he belongs among four branches in the multiverse. It is easier than Löb! Everything follows from the linearity of the tensor product. I use teleportation instead of Bell's inequality violation to explain that MWI makes the physical reality local, despite the appearances of non-locality in unique branche(s). This does not prove that MWI reinstates locality, but it seems to me it is enough to ask to those who claims that MWI does not reinstates locality to explain why, and to give an experiment justifying this. Where I still have some problem in the MWI is with the tunneling effect. We might need to discuss this one day.

Bruno


I'm sure anyone who can follow a "Doctro Who" episode written by Steven Moffat will have no trouble with that proof.


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