On 02 Nov 2014, at 19:09, meekerdb wrote:

On 11/2/2014 1:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 01 Nov 2014, at 23:52, meekerdb wrote:

Are you aware of the Paul-Pavicic "bomb" detector?

http://cds.cern.ch/record/395858/files/9908023.pdf

I did not know this. Impressive.



It is most easily thought of as non-local in time.

I will have to think about that. If you can elaborate. I think I intuit what you are saying, but well, I need to work more on this.

Intuitively a photon is encouraged to enter the detector because it is in resonance with an earlier instance of itself that is already circulating in the detector. The experiment has not actually been done; but I think it would not work if you determined the time of emission of the photon to a precision on the order of the circulation time in the detector.

Is this based on some (relativistic?) account of the energy-time "uncertainty relation"?

I must confess I have some difficulty to grasp your explanation but that might be due to my incompetence.

Are not the chlorophyl molecule doing something similar when exploiting quantum weirdness for optimizing the use of the photons? Can the plant "know" the precise time of the absorption of the photons and get at the same time a similar energy optimum?

Plant would manage the energy of the sun without seeing, and without saying, of course :)

I profit from not having read a paper on non-locality in time to speculate wildly, sorry .... If you have a good link on this form of non locality... (and if I can optimize the energy and time needed ...)

Bruno





Brent



Also, I always try to figure out those strange quantum behavior in the MW picture, and I don't see well non-locality in time in that way, but I have to (and I am) revive my quantum mode of thinking!

Thanks for the link,

Bruno


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